^ It’s been written about a few times in the Ha’aretz. There are some Israelis & Palestinians for it, an ever growing minority actually, even West Bank settlers (for obvious reasons).
Of course South Africa and the policy of apartheid are mentioned in every pro and counter argument.
As to “origins”, it IS interesting to see how many current Israelis are actually eastern European and Russian, by where they were raised, AND their politics- very “communal” in the way the country was established, kibbutz, and very “state owned” industry, like Israeli Defense Industries, and other “companies”. They’ve recently begun to “privatize” industry, and followed the American expansion philosophy of America- “this land was your land, but now it’s MY LAND” same tune different words.
Libertarian, you are aware that one reason for the creation of the modern Israeli state was so the Allies didn’t have to restore the vast amount of property and money stolen by the Nazis, don’t you?
When the issue of “right of return” comes up, it raises interesting questions?? Since the first century C.E. the diaspora resulted in NOT occupying this alleged “homeland” . Exodus speaks to Philistea, which IS “Palestine”- occupied by Moses when they left Egypt.
People have feet. The United States is whose “homeland”? Migration and being migrants is the history of the human species. Politics makes “homelands”- as do wars. Well, we should include famines, plagues, drought, pestilence, and other factors that cause people to “move on”- like over-crowding and in-laws.
Now settling down, agreeing to share resources, and treat all our hominid neighbors as neighbors- nobody’s very good at that it seems.
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
^So by your logic if they don’t become one state then they are not apartheid. I guess that is why they reject the one state solution.
Same reason we don’t merge California and Mexico.
Same reason why Canadians don’t become our 51-62 states.
OmqR-IV.0 over 13 years ago
^ It’s been written about a few times in the Ha’aretz. There are some Israelis & Palestinians for it, an ever growing minority actually, even West Bank settlers (for obvious reasons). Of course South Africa and the policy of apartheid are mentioned in every pro and counter argument.
Jason Allen over 13 years ago
I think we can call Israel on their overtly discriminating policies without invoking the Nazis.
Frankly I think the world needs to boycott Israel as it did South Africa during Apartheid.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
As to “origins”, it IS interesting to see how many current Israelis are actually eastern European and Russian, by where they were raised, AND their politics- very “communal” in the way the country was established, kibbutz, and very “state owned” industry, like Israeli Defense Industries, and other “companies”. They’ve recently begun to “privatize” industry, and followed the American expansion philosophy of America- “this land was your land, but now it’s MY LAND” same tune different words.
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
trout
Do you also want to send all Israelis back to Germany and Poland?
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
Libertarian, you are aware that one reason for the creation of the modern Israeli state was so the Allies didn’t have to restore the vast amount of property and money stolen by the Nazis, don’t you?
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
^ also their homeland for 2,000+ years.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
When the issue of “right of return” comes up, it raises interesting questions?? Since the first century C.E. the diaspora resulted in NOT occupying this alleged “homeland” . Exodus speaks to Philistea, which IS “Palestine”- occupied by Moses when they left Egypt.
People have feet. The United States is whose “homeland”? Migration and being migrants is the history of the human species. Politics makes “homelands”- as do wars. Well, we should include famines, plagues, drought, pestilence, and other factors that cause people to “move on”- like over-crowding and in-laws.
Now settling down, agreeing to share resources, and treat all our hominid neighbors as neighbors- nobody’s very good at that it seems.